A great story! An unrealistic but touching dream ^_^Original address:“Unreliable” Dreams, Reliable Creations: The Creation Story of “Lord of the Flies“author:Sanlian Picture Book Museum
On the 23rd, Tian Yu, the author of “Lord of the Flies”, held an exchange and signing session with readers at the Kubrick Bookstore in Beijing. During the one and a half hour exchange, Tian Yu talked freely about his inextricable bond with picture books, the process of the creation of the story of “Lord of the Flies”, and also gave his interpretation of the story of “Lord of the Flies”.
The following is a partial transcript.
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The Creation Story of Lord of the Flies
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Where did “Lord of the Flies” come from?
Let’s first talk about the story itself. I’m not sure how you feel after hearing it, so I’ve simulated it myself as an audience member: I think it’s a very simple story, without much of a strong rhythm. Most of the story consists of the boy pondering and practicing in the bathroom. Only in the middle of the story does it experience some subtle ups and downs, with more people involved, and finally reaching its climax with the Lord of the Flies performance, but there the story abruptly ends.
Lord of the Flies is a picture book story. We hear the term “picture book” more and more often these days, but when we were little, we didn’t have picture books. We only listened to stories and read comic books. Later, picture books came into being, and now they are also called illustrated books.
Before I started drawing picture books, I was an artist, painting many oil paintings. Later, I decided to dedicate myself to picture book creation, and now my entire life is essentially centered around them. This is largely due to Mr. Yang Zhong from the Picture Book Creation Studio and my good friend, the young artist Man Tao. Five years ago, Man Tao and I were chatting when the word “picture book” suddenly came up. At the time, we considered picture books to be plot-based, artist-illustrated, art books. My primary attraction when reading picture books was their plot-based, stress-free nature. Compared to pure art, which requires a lot of consideration, these picture books simply brought joy to my heart, which captivated me. Because of my love for picture books, Man Tao and I met Mr. Yang Zhong from the Picture Book Creation Studio and subsequently visited his studio.
I was still quite nervous at the time, but I read a lot of wonderful picture books in the studio. Teacher Yang even read aloud to me: “Picture Book Child” by Ryoji Arai. That night, I was completely captivated by picture books. I felt like I had finally found a job I could fully devote myself to after all these years. After returning home, I found many more picture books to read and cherished every opportunity to interact with Teacher Yang.
After that, I began teaching at a picture book creation studio. At the suggestion of Yang Zhong and Xiang Hua, I had the idea of creating my own picture book. I was thrilled: Could I really create my own picture book? But I also had a lot of concerns. Was I truly professional enough to create my own picture book? Although I had a professional background, I didn’t understand picture books well enough: Could I simply love picture books and be able to create them?
But I soon overcame this hurdle, thanks to the encouragement of Teachers Yang and Xiang Hua. Now the question I needed to think about was: What kind of story should I draw for my first picture book? …
Ultimately, I chose “Lord of the Flies.” While I deeply enjoy dramatic stories, I chose the simple, peaceful tale of “Lord of the Flies” for a reason: first, it had been in my mind for a very long time, dating back to my childhood. Back then, I lived on the ground floor of a tube-shaped building, with a massive garbage dump right outside our door. My mother would lock me in while she went to work and give me a task: swat all the flies in the house before she got home. So, I began to seriously hone in on fly-swatting techniques: I’d prepare a piece of white paper for drawing, observe the flies’ flight, and then swat them, trying not to explode them so I could display them on the paper as trophies to show my mother. Initially, my mother praised me for my successes, and I was so inspired that I took it upon myself to exterminate the flies in our house. Later, to expand my efforts, I even swatted flies from the garbage dump outside. The sheer volume of flies made my mother sick. This reaction resonated deeply with me, and from then on, swatting flies became more than just a pursuit. But I really thought about what it would feel like if my mother came home and saw me swatting a fly in mid-flight. I even imagined using something larger, like a newspaper, to swat a fly in mid-flight. Later, when I attended the Affiliated High School of the Central Academy of Fine Arts in Beijing, I became particularly interested in film. This memory inspired me to write down the initial outline of “Lord of the Flies” and even turned it into a short screenplay, though it never got made. Now, when I think about writing a picture book, this story immediately springs to mind. I tried to tell it to Teachers Yang and Xiang Hua, and I was so excited, but I didn’t have an ending. They gave me great encouragement, and I polished the story, so I started writing.
How do I draw the Lord of the Flies in my mind?
Now the second question arises: what method should I use to express this story?
I brought some sketches with me today. This large portfolio is filled with drawings: some depictions of Lord of the Flies, others experimental scenes created with acrylics. I considered many approaches, but never started drawing, unsure which would best suit the story. Then, Teacher Yang enlightened me. She said, “Just do what feels most comfortable to you. No matter what, start drawing.” She told me to forget about shot-by-shot, structure, and other elements and just start drawing. I’d written several versions of the Lord of the Flies text, but I still felt the writing wasn’t good enough. Teacher Yang suggested I put the words aside and start with the pictures, because the story itself was clear, and the pictures would speak for themselves. I first settled on the character of Lord of the Flies, and once that was settled, the style I wanted to draw gradually took shape. At the time, besides teaching, I also had other duties, so I found picture book creation to be my most relaxing and enjoyable way to de-stress. So, I worked on Lord of the Flies while continuing my other work, even when I felt tired from other tasks.
As I thought about this, many small sketches emerged, and many images in my mind appeared on paper. I didn’t overthink it, because if I kept holding a standard in my mind and comparing it to the various paintings of the masters, I would be stuck. So I started by sketching the happiest, most impulsive, and most vivid scenes, until I had a final draft. I didn’t use pencils to start with, but directly with a pen. This drawing is a scene from the Lord of the Flies convention, because I really wanted to see how people would react when they saw Lord of the Flies perform his amazing tricks. I drew this in a friend’s studio, where there were many children, who served as models for the characters in my drawing. I took many photos and added details of the imaginary scene based on them. Then came the second drawing. This second drawing is also about the Lord of the Flies convention. Because I didn’t want the drawings to be boring, I incorporated many of my favorite fantasy characters into the drawing, such as Captain Jack Sparrow, Peter Pan, Little Red Riding Hood, and so on. After I finished the drawings, I showed them to Teacher Yang and Teacher Xiang Hua, but I was still a little nervous, wondering if they would make it into the picture book. Of course I was inspired by the result, and the way to draw Lord of the Flies was completely finalized.
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I also considered some typographical factors during the drawing process. The final image allows the reader to directly see a picture with typographic effects. Although I don’t understand typography, I know how to draw, and I can design the typographic effects based on visual effects, such as the addition and placement of many small components, and the final lighting and shadow effects. So I just drew the typography directly.
By the time I finished my third painting, I’d become enamored with the “mat-weaving” technique readers had commented on. Some people have asked if I enjoy this technique. My answer is no. I chose it because, first, it’s very soothing. Secondly, I remember as a child using the toilets with their cross-patterned windows. At noon, sunlight streamed through, and dust particles drifted in the sunlight. This left a lasting impression. Initially, I intended to use this technique to capture the feeling of dust drifting in the sunlight, but as I progressed, I came to love it. I felt that this level of detail allowed me to connect with the Lord of the Flies in the story. By painting these line-based backgrounds, I felt a connection with the Lord: he spent his days contemplating how to swat flies, and I was drawing these lines every day. We felt a spiritual connection. Consequently, most of my backgrounds now feature a large number of lines, and I’ve even redrawn many of my paintings to emphasize this. These lines really hold the image together, and I truly enjoy the feeling of working with lines.
When we held an exhibition at the Shengshi Tiankong Art Museum this year, I created a color proof of the then-unpublished Lord of the Flies. Many of the images featured subtle colors. Little Red Riding Hood and Peter Pan were clearly visible on that page. However, the final published book was in black and white, due to a number of publishing considerations: there’s a discrepancy between printed color and computer coloring, and the coloring made the first half of the story seem rather depressing, while black and white easily revealed the hand-drawn brushstrokes.
Combined with the pricing feedback I gathered from this sample book, Lord of the Flies opted for a paperback format for its official publication. I didn’t want my first book to be so expensive, and after recalling many of my own reading experiences, I decided that a paperback binding would be the most conducive to reading. The official publication still required careful consideration of the market and readers’ price points.
The Secret in Lord of the Flies
The key word I want to share with you is “secret.” Everyone has their own interpretation of the same thing. As an author, why did I allow my first picture book to be so simple and flat in terms of storytelling? Because beyond the simple text, the images in “Lord of the Flies” also hide several “secrets.”
Why is this book “dedicated to those dreams that have never been realized”? First, look at this picture in the book. There’s a row of children standing there. I tried to make them interesting, like the “four-bar” character, the little fly, the child in the cow costume, the cool kid with the backpack strap tied around his head, and the team leader with a very fashionable backpack. Only the Lord of the Flies is facing us.
Why did I draw the first picture of the story like this? I believe picture book authors don’t just start drawing right after receiving a story. As authors, they should have a deeper understanding of the story. Take the Lord of the Flies in the story. He stays in the bathroom, obsessed with swatting flies. There must be a reason for this: perhaps he’s lonely, or perhaps he’s faced something in real life. I’ve certainly encountered people like him in my own life, and I’ve seen similar situations in my own life, but never quite as exaggerated as in the story. I wondered how an adult might understand a lonely child. So I tried to think about whether there were moments in my childhood when I felt out of place, alienated, and alone. But no matter how I thought about it, time always softened those feelings of loneliness. Is this inner loneliness, perhaps a sense of resentment or even avoidance, something we impose on ourselves as children? Is it a reluctance to fit in? I wanted to visually express this feeling of looking back on childhood as an adult, so the picture shows a row of children standing in a line, but only the Lord of the Flies is facing a different direction. I wanted to convey that he himself created this lonely beginning. Now that you have chosen how to start the story, you can move on.
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In the second picture, the other children disappear, the background appears, but the protagonist’s position remains unchanged. We enter his world. He stands in the shadows, yet all he needs to do is step into the sunlight. But he has placed himself where the light doesn’t reach, where no one else wants to go. This is his understanding of his loneliness. But I didn’t want to paint a story about a lonely child.
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Finally, the story comes to an abrupt end. I ended with an old photo. I hope people will believe that this is real, but it is also far from our lives.
My ending was based on my own feelings. I didn’t want the Lord of the Flies to continue swatting flies. There are many interpretations of the ending, but my favorite relates to “unfulfilled dreams.” My childhood dream of becoming a master fly swatter never materialized, but I did draw a book about it. I know some will question this story, but I want to say that, taking fly swatting as an example, there are many times when hesitation or other forces have interrupted this dream, just like Lord of the Flies. I wanted to show in my story a child who, unchallenged by the outside world, does strange things in a dirty and messy environment, yet enjoys them and delights in their pursuits. His skill at swatting flies eventually draws attention, leading adults to haile him as the Lord of the Flies, a farce. So this book is dedicated to those unfulfilled dreams. At least, I can’t approach each of my dreams with the same seriousness and calmness as Lord of the Flies.
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Although this is a simple story, I hope it will provoke reflection. Why didn’t the child in the story finally swat the fly? My personal understanding is that the child turned around, like most people, or perhaps others turned around for him. Whether he swats flies again or not is irrelevant; I think he didn’t. But because he focused on one thing and achieved his dream, he will surely achieve his own dreams in the future.