Thanks to group leader Zou Yanfang for organizing this post! The content includes previous discussions, emails, and on-the-spot notes from this study session, making it quite challenging to organize. It may seem a bit messy, but as you slowly understand it, you’ll probably find some insights. ^_^Original address:Illuminating Another “Me”——Interpretation of Lionel Messi’s Worksauthor:Red Mud Study Group This study session was held after the students had submitted their homework enthusiastically in the early stage.
During the preliminary preparation work:
1. Yao Jingjing’s inspiring comments
Matthew’s Dream began with a chance encounter with art and music (a museum visit), where he found a home for his dreams and spirit. The most brilliant sentence in the book is the last one: “His largest painting now hangs in the museum.” When asked about the title, Matthew smiles. “The title?” he says as if he had never thought about it before. “My…”
Dream”. Indeed, Matthew’s works hanging in the museum are based on his dreams. This is one meaning of dream. Another meaning is that art is a bridge connecting Matthew’s reality and ideal dreams.
Throughout history, many great works of art have emerged from dreams, inspiration, passion, a revelation. This is the unpredictability and mystery of art. Art has the power to penetrate deeply. Once someone falls under the spell of art, perhaps their world (as Matthew’s) becomes completely different from that of ordinary people. This book discusses art and music. It was the first one I picked up from a list of 18, and it resonated so well with our topic yesterday. It seems everything is orchestrated. It’s fascinating…
2. Teacher Ajia’s Poetic Interpretation
This is the original text from Lioni’s picture books, the original text from some of Lioni’s books I’ve translated. I’m used to typing out and printing out each picture book before translating it. Words feel completely different when separated from the pictures. For example, Anthony Brown’s words are only particularly interesting when paired with the pictures, but Lioni’s words seem to stand alone, forming a poetic allegory.
3. Huang Jianping’s comparative interpretation of Afo and the Cuckoo
In 1959, at the age of 49 and at the peak of his career, Lionel Messi planned to retire at 50 to pursue a more creative life, moving from New York to Italy. It was then that a serendipitous event led him to his future career. Lionel Messi, now a grandfather, was taking his two young grandchildren home by train. To ease the boredom of the long journey, he tore a few colorful scraps of paper from a nearby magazine and made up a story for the children: Little Blue and Little Yellow. Thus began his first published children’s book.
Over the next 35 years, Lionel Leo wrote/illustrated more than 40 children’s books, four of which won the Caldecott Medal: *Inch by Inch* (1961 Caldecott Honor book), *Swimmy* (1964 Caldecott Honor book), and more.,
Frederick (1968 Caldecott Honor book), Alexander and Wind-up Mouse (1970 Caldecott Honor book).
Lionel Leo is a master storyteller. His books tell children about many serious topics such as sharing, cooperation, maintaining individuality, peace, human rights, etc., but there is no moral preaching in his books, because he always uses cute animal images to impress children all over the world, making them feel that his books are first of all fun and interesting. As for the profound truths contained in the books, I believe that children will slowly experience them throughout their lives.
Lionel Leo Lionni’s books cover a wide range of subjects. Having witnessed and personally experienced the rise of fascism in Europe, and as a member of an international anti-fascist organization (mainly composed of intellectuals and artists), his strong advocacy for peace and human rights is often reflected in his stories. For example, *The Alphabet Tree* was written during the Vietnam War; *Tillie and the Wall* was published eight months before the fall of the Berlin Wall; and *Nicolas, Where Have You Been?*
It talks about overcoming prejudice. It’s fair to say that every one of Lioni’s books deserves discussion, but due to time and space constraints, I’d like to focus on the first Lioni book I read, and my favorite, about the little field mouse, Alfonso. Before discussing Alfonso, I can’t help but praise Ajia’s translation. Alfonso is truly spot-on, capturing the playfulness of the field mouse while also highlighting the Buddha-like state Alfonso has attained. The original name is Frederick. Could you share how you came up with the translation?
In a previous email, I mentioned the impact that Ah Fu had on me, and I’ll repeat it here to avoid a sense of incoherence for first-time readers. I remember the opening of the story—everyone was busy working, only Ah Fu, the field mouse, was lazing around in the sun. It immediately reminded me of a text I learned as a child, “The Cuckoo.” The cuckoo in the story, like Ah Fu, leisurely enjoyed the sunshine while everyone else worked in the summer. However, because it had no food stored for the winter, it froze and starved to death in the cold winter. I thought, just like our Chinese teachers, foreign writers teach children to study hard from a young age to avoid freezing or starvation when they grow up (this is how my teacher summarized the main idea). However, the story’s ending was completely unexpected, leaving me filled with envy and resentment: enjoying the sunshine and beautiful scenery in China would lead to starvation, but in America, you could become an artist! From then on, this new concept of preserving sunlight and color was deeply engraved in my mind and had a profound impact on my life.
By comparing Frederick the Cold-Weather Bird to Frederick, I’m not saying that all Chinese people think like the Cold-Weather Bird, or that all Americans or Westerners think like Frederick. Nor am I saying that most people in the subsistence stage are like the Cold-Weather Bird, or that most people in the affluent stage are like Frederick. In fact, every country and every social class has both types of people. During a gathering at the National Day holiday, I talked to my German friend about Frederick, and she said that it was also her favorite. I then told her the story of the Cold-Weather Bird, and she immediately said that she was a Cold-Weather Bird type. She said that the food stored in her refrigerator was enough for her whole family to eat for a week at any time. She couldn’t stand having enough food at home for only one or two days, and she always had to make full preparations in advance. Therefore, different countries and different social classes have both the “Cold-weather bird” and “Afoetida,” which actually represent two different ways of life, namely, Fromm’s “possessive” and “survival” ways of life. The possessive way of life wants to possess everything—to get everything in advance and have everything under their control, the so-called “Prepare the future” (a phrase that Tiger Mom always uses); while the survival-oriented way of life is more content with what they have. They value the present and try to enjoy the moment as much as possible, rather than turning every moment into preparation for the future and losing its inherent meaning.
I must admit that I’ve always been raised and thought like the cuckoo: As a child, I diligently exercised self-denial, forgoing sunlight and vibrant colors to avoid freezing and starving in winter. After graduating from college and entering the workforce, I worked even harder to secure a bright future. As a mother, I prepared my children for their own futures to avoid a cuckoo-like fate. It wasn’t until I turned 40 that I suddenly realized that both the dreaded winter and the bright future lie in a tomorrow I can never reach. This cuckoo-like sense of urgency led me to neglect the present, turning every moment into a preparation for the future, completely ignoring the very existence of the present because I only focused on future goals. Without today, how can there be tomorrow? If we live our entire lives for tomorrow, then we’ve never truly lived. We might as well learn from the little field mouse, Afu, and live as much as possible in the present moment. If storing grain and nuts seems fun, then join the effort and save them. If such labor is boring and you’d rather sit quietly and admire the sunshine and colors, then fully enjoy the moment, without dwelling on whether you’ll starve in the winter. Afu imparted to me a non-clinging mindset: fully savor the sunshine when you can, and embrace the cold winter when it arrives, composing poetry for everyone. This is not the usual clinging or entangled mindset: enjoying the sunshine while worrying about starvation in the winter, then regretting not working harder to store more food and instead focusing solely on enjoying the sunshine. In this sense, Afu was a highly accomplished Zen practitioner. No wonder many regard this book as a yogic practice. In fact, it’s not just for yogis, but also for Buddhists and all practitioners of all traditions who desire to live in the present moment.
To all those who love Alfred the Field Mouse, while you’re busy “storing winter food,” don’t forget to take a break and enjoy the sunshine and beautiful scenery before you. Don’t always make storing sunshine and color a beautiful goal, waiting until this job is finished, until your annual salary reaches a certain level, until the children grow up… No one knows what will happen when that time comes. We always think that the good life has not yet begun, but in fact it is already fading. The only thing we can grasp is the present moment.
4. Yang Qinghua’s sharing
Sharing the English version of LEO’s picture books: FREDERICK, FISH IS FISH, INCH BY INCH, PEBBLES.
5. Wang Liyan’s sharing
I really enjoyed the interpretation of “A Color of His Own”! These past few days, as a first-year doctoral student, I’ve attended several opening ceremonies and orientation activities. Without exception, these activities emphasized the importance of publishing papers, especially in core domestic and international journals like SSCI and SCI. It felt like the entire university, from the department to the specific major, was reminding graduate students to focus on publishing papers and completing their dissertations. Hearing this so much made me a little sad: why didn’t anyone emphasize learning to care for oneself, improving self-cultivation; why didn’t they emphasize learning to observe society, care for others, and shoulder responsibilities to society and the country? As a normal university (East China Normal University), why didn’t they emphasize learning how to be a teacher, how to educate students, and understanding the current state of education in China?
6. Li Ling chose to share with the children
7. Dong Ying shares her thoughts after reading “The Alphabet Tree”
Yesterday, I randomly picked up this book, *The Alphabet Tree*, and slowly began to read it. The conversation between two ants led to a very touching, vivid, and inspiring story—each letter reminded me of each and every one of us, of each individual life. Initially, independent individuals could survive on their own, just like people today, each living their own lives without the most basic equal communication between people. When disaster strikes, the letters are blown away one by one, and what about people? Aren’t we the same? Sometimes I think that humanity only unites when disaster strikes. The saying “many hands make light work” only expresses a small part of the problem. When all the letters huddle together, it still doesn’t have much effect; it’s a disorganized mess. Will it be easily defeated? Humanity needs a magic touch, and at this moment, Funny Bug is the guide of these alphabet trees. Social groups need good leaders, not just those who incite; they should offer suggestions and have some organizational skills. The letters formed words, and although the strong wind couldn’t blow them away, something was still missing. Then a cute caterpillar appeared. The pink caterpillar was adorable, but I don’t understand why Lionel Leo always used such bright colors when choosing characters to appear. I think it’s to attract attention, but there must be a deeper meaning. When the caterpillar appeared, it offered advice to the letters: “Why don’t you put yourselves together to form sentences to express something?” The letters formed some sentences, but the caterpillar said, “you…”
The correct guidance of “must say something important” allowed the scattered letters to eventually form the sentence “Peace on earth and goodwill toward all men.” The caterpillar carried the letters away, and when the letters asked where it was taking them, the caterpillar replied, “To the president.” “To the president”—this is a phrase that evokes endless contemplation. I look forward to further interpretations. After reading the story, and reflecting on the current situation, how wonderful it would be if there were such a mentor to guide the people to approach protests and patriotism rationally. Perhaps I read the right book at the right time; I feel that Lionni’s image has completely changed in my mind. I love his paintings, I love his expression. Every work is so classic. Whether meaningful or meaningless, I will continue to read his works, one by one.
8. Teacher Ajia takes the risk of sharing “Girl with a Brown Paintbrush”
This is truly a very important book. It’s easier for adults to comment on Lioni’s work, but I’ve always been curious about how children actually receive it. This book gives us a very different perspective.
For example, in the book “Alfred the Field Mouse”, the children in the book seemed to not care at all about Alfred’s seemingly “selfish” behavior, accepted it effortlessly, and mainly viewed it from the perspective of a friend.
From an adult’s perspective, it’s inevitable to worry about gains and losses. For example, we see that Ah Fo is an artist and a poet, and we not only accept him but also fall in love with him. But what if Ah Fo is nothing? He simply enjoys daydreaming, daydreaming, and collecting colors and words, but can’t paint or compose poetry? As a friend or relative, would I still accept him?
I love poetry, but I can’t write it. Do I still have the right to be as dazed and idle as Ah Fu? — In short, the logic of adult reality is always difficult to justify, haha.
Children’s understanding of Leoni seems to be more inclined towards heroism, idealism and romantic feelings.
9. Yao Jingjing once again shared that An Extraordinary Egg depicts the characteristics of a person who dwells in a poetic way: a loner; full of curiosity; enjoys the process of discovery; loves to explore and loves to think quietly in private space.
– As a distinction, most people, like Marilyn, are self-righteous, content with the status quo, and unwilling or afraid to take risks.
- After answering what kind of person an artist is, the author also answers the question of what is the use of art: Jessica happily goes out to explore every day, enriching her experiences every day: she likes to pick up pebbles that her other two companions think are nothing special, which led to her bringing back a crocodile egg; she was playing under the water and was tripped by water plants, which led to a crocodile saving her life and the two of them becoming extraordinary friends; she likes to explore places she has never been to, which led to her meeting the red and blue bird, and under the guidance of the bird, she slept in the open air and traveled under the stars all the way to find the crocodile mother; she likes the process of discovery rather than the result of possessing her friends, so she does not feel lost when she leaves the crocodile, but rushes home to share her new discovery with her companions.
In her poetic habitat, the protagonist Jessica lives a rich and extraordinary life. Jessica possesses an artistic heart. What ordinary people consider ordinary pebbles, to her, are beautiful in shape, texture, and color. While ordinary frogs freak out at the sight of movement in the water, Jessica, drowning, remains unfazed, saying, “I’m fine.” When I read about Jessica and the alligator’s breakup, I wondered if Jessica was a little sad about her friend’s departure. No, she wasn’t. She happily ran home, eager to share her discovery with her friends. Heartless artists never have time for sadness or loss, their gaze and pace never lingering on new goals. Jessica’s life is elevated by art, and the little alligator, through a strange twist of fate, finds a home (perhaps a secular purpose, too).
There are still some prepared materials for you guys that I haven’t sorted out yet. When we get together at Red Mud, we can share about Lionel Messi and his works.
The study session began with a question from a child: “The story in Little Yellow and Little Blue is so concise, and other works by Leo Lionni, while telling stories from multiple perspectives, why is he so captivating and has influenced so many people to create picture books? How can we appreciate his work?”
Children immediately rushed to answer. Some spoke from their own reading experiences, saying that Leonie’s works encompass every aspect of life, like a fish being a fish, and Leonie being the eye. Through him, he has brought together a community of “fish” children’s book creators, who, under his leadership, bravely forge ahead. Others approached the topic from an artistic perspective, stating that he was the first to incorporate collages into children’s book creation. He took everyday elements and, while transcending the material, offered readers a fresh experience. Teacher Ajia recounted the story of Leonie’s creation of Little Yellow and Little Blue. During a short train trip, Leonie used blocks of color torn from magazines to tell a story to his five-year-old grandson and three-year-old granddaughter. The captivating story captivated the children, and after careful editing and production, it became the classic “Little Blue and Little Yellow.” Leonie thus acquired a new identity: a master of children’s picture books. Although not a professional children’s literature writer, this outsider brings a different perspective to those within the field. Leonie’s picture book creations appear uninfluenced by the traditional children’s book industry, and his relationship with editors is unique. Lioni is naturally happy to tell the editor what his next book might be based on, but no one knows the specific content of the book until he takes the finished book to the publisher. Lioni is very confident that his almost perfect creations can surprise everyone, and in fact, it is always the case. The artist and design master even designed the font, and he always chose a very old-fashioned font (Century).
(Schoolbook), because he felt this type of printing font was the easiest for children to read. The designer had also meticulously planned the font size and precise placement on the page. People often talk more about Lionni’s paintings, but he was equally meticulous about his text. Editors hailed him as the “Aesop of the 20th century,” praising not only the profound meaning of his stories but also the concise, clear, and poetic nature of his writing. While his picture book text is easily understood by children, it’s not in a tone specifically for children; his stories are for everyone. Reflecting on Lionni’s seemingly simple words, I sometimes feel they are quite old-fashioned, more like European English than American English. His grammatical rigor is exemplary, while his word choices are highly individualistic. He doesn’t seem to automatically choose common words, but rather prefers words with a more primal charm and symbolic meaning. Some students combined Leo Lionni’s biography with an overall interpretation of his works. Lionni himself was a person with very broad interests, enjoying architecture, sculpture, music, and dance. He drew inspiration from various fields and applied it to his children’s book creations, resulting in a diverse range of styles. Student Li Ling shared her experience of sharing his works with different children. In a rural school in Yunnan, Matthew’s Dream instantly moved all the children. Among the hearing-impaired children, they wanted to touch the prominent colored blocks, especially when the beautiful dream was interrupted, returning to the bleak reality, and then reality became beautiful again, due to the effect of tears and familiar music. Group leader Huang Jianping talked about her reading experience, saying it was related to her own experiences, interpreting herself, and discovering another “self” in the book. Teachers at Haijia School said that after reading Frederick the Mouse in second grade, the children also created their own stories, the most amazing being “The Little Mouse Practicing Martial Arts.” Lionni’s narrative is not continuous; even within a single work, the stories, themes, and characters are interconnected. Beyond creating classic books, Leo Lionni’s works also evoked familiar symbols in our lives, such as Frederick the field mouse collecting sunlight and “Little Black Fish.” While Lionni’s picture books seemed avant-garde at the time, they now appear somewhat old-fashioned. Yet, his work is magical; each piece reflects him, a different version of himself at different stages. For example, Little Blue and Little Yellow can be seen as the disappearance and reconstruction of the self; Little Black Fish is the leader of the group; Cornelius is a trendsetter; Frederick is a magical poet; and Matthew is an artist who discovers himself while discovering the world. Works like *Alexander and the Wind-up Mouse*, *One’s Own Color*, and *Fish Is Fish* all tell a story of self-identification… Upon closer reflection, they are, to varying degrees, reflections of Lionni himself. A student then discussed the role of art: artists better understand the world, observing it from an artist’s perspective. Children are natural artists, able to see fallen flowers transformed into “stars scattered on the ground” under the light. In discussing “Let’s make rabbits,” besides appreciating the movement and stillness in the imagery, we also discussed the role of shadows. For example, a real carrot casts a shadow, and the rabbit becomes a real rabbit because of its shadow. Perhaps this is a metaphor, a point of transition from one world to another.
The topic of the next study is the works of Hiromasa Anno.