{"id":163,"date":"2025-05-05T22:52:25","date_gmt":"2025-05-05T13:52:25","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/ajia.site\/blog\/?p=163"},"modified":"2025-09-09T19:48:57","modified_gmt":"2025-09-09T11:48:57","slug":"interview_2025_01","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/ajia.site\/blog\/en\/2025\/05\/05\/interview_2025_01\/","title":{"rendered":"Inter\u00adview on \u201cOrig\u00adi\u00adnal Pic\u00adture Books: Select\u00aded Read\u00adings and High\u00adlights\u201d (Part 1)"},"content":{"rendered":"<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\">\n<p><strong>Intro\u00adduc\u00adtion: This is an inter\u00adview pod\u00adcast con\u00adduct\u00aded on \u201cPic\u00adture Book Lol\u00adlipop\u201d, host\u00aded by Xiaox\u00adi\u00adang and guest Ajia. Start\u00ading from the ref\u00ader\u00adence book \u201cOrig\u00adi\u00adnal Pic\u00adture Books: Select\u00aded Read\u00adings and High\u00adlights\u201d pub\u00adlished at the end of 2024, an in-depth con\u00adver\u00adsa\u00adtion was held around the selec\u00adtion cri\u00adte\u00adria, his\u00adtor\u00adi\u00adcal con\u00adtext, cur\u00adrent themes and future devel\u00adop\u00adment of orig\u00adi\u00adnal pic\u00adture books. The record\u00ading time is on the evening of Jan\u00adu\u00adary 3, 2025, and the broad\u00adcast time is Jan\u00adu\u00adary 17, 2025.<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>The fol\u00adlow\u00ading text is com\u00adpiled as an excerpt. To lis\u00adten to the full pod\u00adcast, please click the fol\u00adlow\u00ading audio link:<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Himalaya:<\/strong><a href=\"https:\/\/weibo.cn\/sinaurl?u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.ximalaya.com%2Fsound%2F796972241\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\"><strong>38 Dia\u00adlogue with Teacher Ajia: Has the Spring of Orig\u00adi\u00adnal Pic\u00adture Books Arrived? _Picture Book Lollipop_Free Online Read\u00ading, Lis\u00adten\u00ading and Down\u00adload\u00ading \u2013 Himalaya<\/strong><\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Micro\u00adcosm:<\/strong><a href=\"https:\/\/weibo.cn\/sinaurl?u=http%3A%2F%2Ft.cn%2FA6uDFbvy\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\"><strong>http:\/\/t.cn\/A6uDFbvy<\/strong><\/a><\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"778\" height=\"1024\" src=\"https:\/\/ajia.site\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/05\/\u539f\u521b\u56fe\u753b\u4e66\u9605\u8bfb\u4e0e\u7cbe\u54c1\u5c01\u9762-778x1024.jpg\" alt class=\"wp-image-171\" srcset=\"https:\/\/ajia.site\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/05\/\u539f\u521b\u56fe\u753b\u4e66\u9605\u8bfb\u4e0e\u7cbe\u54c1\u5c01\u9762-778x1024.jpg 778w, https:\/\/ajia.site\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/05\/\u539f\u521b\u56fe\u753b\u4e66\u9605\u8bfb\u4e0e\u7cbe\u54c1\u5c01\u9762-228x300.jpg 228w, https:\/\/ajia.site\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/05\/\u539f\u521b\u56fe\u753b\u4e66\u9605\u8bfb\u4e0e\u7cbe\u54c1\u5c01\u9762-768x1011.jpg 768w, https:\/\/ajia.site\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/05\/\u539f\u521b\u56fe\u753b\u4e66\u9605\u8bfb\u4e0e\u7cbe\u54c1\u5c01\u9762-1167x1536.jpg 1167w, https:\/\/ajia.site\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/05\/\u539f\u521b\u56fe\u753b\u4e66\u9605\u8bfb\u4e0e\u7cbe\u54c1\u5c01\u9762-9x12.jpg 9w, https:\/\/ajia.site\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/05\/\u539f\u521b\u56fe\u753b\u4e66\u9605\u8bfb\u4e0e\u7cbe\u54c1\u5c01\u9762.jpg 1200w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 778px) 100vw, 778px\"><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>[Part 1]<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Xiaox\u00adi\u00adang:<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Hi, every\u00adone, wel\u00adcome to the new episode of \u201cPic\u00adture Book Lol\u00adlipop\u201d. I am Xiaox\u00adi\u00adang.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>It\u2019s been a long time since we last updat\u00aded the pod\u00adcast, but the pod\u00adcast is final\u00adly online. The last episode was dur\u00ading the sum\u00admer vaca\u00adtion, and this one will be the last one dur\u00ading the Lunar New Year.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Because it is the end of the year, it is actu\u00adal\u00adly quite suit\u00adable to talk about some top\u00adics relat\u00aded to inven\u00adto\u00adry and sum\u00adma\u00adry.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>What we are going to talk about today is a top\u00adic that every\u00adone is very inter\u00adest\u00aded in \u2014 about our orig\u00adi\u00adnal pic\u00adture books.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Teacher Ajia has just pub\u00adlished a the\u00ado\u00adret\u00adi\u00adcal book on orig\u00adi\u00adnal pic\u00adture books, called \u201cOrig\u00adi\u00adnal Pic\u00adture Books: Select\u00aded Read\u00adings and High\u00adlights\u201d. In this book, Teacher Ajia ana\u00adlyzes the devel\u00adop\u00adment of orig\u00adi\u00adnal Chi\u00adnese pic\u00adture books from mul\u00adti\u00adple per\u00adspec\u00adtives, such as cul\u00adture and art, and lists 62 rep\u00adre\u00adsen\u00adta\u00adtive works from 1955 to 2020.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>We have also rec\u00adom\u00admend\u00aded this book on Lol\u00adlipop\u2019s Decem\u00adber new book list, and read\u00aders have respond\u00aded very enthu\u00adsi\u00adas\u00adti\u00adcal\u00adly. So I think today is a par\u00adtic\u00adu\u00adlar\u00adly good oppor\u00adtu\u00adni\u00adty to talk about this book, as well as the many ques\u00adtions and thoughts about orig\u00adi\u00adnal pic\u00adture books that can\u00adnot be exhaust\u00aded in the book.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<!--more-->\n\n\n\n<p>First of all, wel\u00adcome our guest, Teacher Ajia!<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Ajia:<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Hel\u00adlo, Xiaox\u00adi\u00adang, hel\u00adlo every\u00adone! Yes, I should be con\u00adsid\u00adered an old friend, right? I think we have chat\u00adted twice before, right?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Xiaox\u00adi\u00adang:<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Yes, yes. Mr. Ajia is the guest who has returned the most times in Lol\u00adlipop.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>I remem\u00adber we talked about the Calde\u00adcott Medal and \u201c1001 Chil\u00addren\u2019s Books You Must Read Before You Grow Up\u201d.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Yes, in the past we talked more about import\u00aded works, but this time we are final\u00adly going to talk about orig\u00adi\u00adnal works.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Let\u2019s start with this book. Could you please tell us about the ori\u00adgin of this book? What inspired you? And the whole cre\u00adation process.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>I remem\u00adber that you did\u00adn\u2019t seem to reveal much about work\u00ading on this book before, so I was quite sur\u00adprised when it was pub\u00adlished.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>In the last pod\u00adcast, you men\u00adtioned that you want\u00aded to write a book called \u201c1001 Chi\u00adnese Children\u2019s Books That Chi\u00adnese Chil\u00addren Must Read Before They Grow Up\u201d.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Ajia:<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Yes, if \u201c1001 books\u201d can\u00adnot be done, then let\u2019s do \u201c101 books\u201d first. That book has actu\u00adal\u00adly been writ\u00adten and is now being type\u00adset. It is to sup\u00adple\u00adment the Chi\u00adnese part of the series \u201c1001 Books to Read Before Grow\u00ading Up\u201d. In fact, I have been writ\u00ading that book since 2020, and the con\u00adtent is not lim\u00adit\u00aded to pic\u00adture books.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>But as for the orig\u00adi\u00adnal Chi\u00adnese pic\u00adture books, I actu\u00adal\u00adly start\u00aded to pre\u00adpare to write them in 2015. How\u00adev\u00ader, I didn\u2019t intend to write them like this book.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>It was com\u00adplete\u00adly acci\u00adden\u00adtal that this book final\u00adly came into being.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>How should I put it? You know I have always been very inter\u00adest\u00aded in the his\u00adto\u00adry of pic\u00adture books, and I want to under\u00adstand their ori\u00adgins \u2014 all over the world, and in Chi\u00adna.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Dur\u00ading the sort\u00ading process, I found that it is eas\u00adi\u00ader to sort out the his\u00adto\u00adry of West\u00adern pic\u00adture books, but it is actu\u00adal\u00adly quite dif\u00adfi\u00adcult to sort out the his\u00adto\u00adry of orig\u00adi\u00adnal Chi\u00adnese pic\u00adture books.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>So actu\u00adal\u00adly, I set a goal in 2015. I want\u00aded to inter\u00adview the cre\u00adators of orig\u00adi\u00adnal pic\u00adture books one by one, espe\u00adcial\u00adly those who start\u00aded writ\u00ading in the ear\u00adly days.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>For exam\u00adple, Ms. Cai Gao, Mr. Zhu Chengliang, and Mr. Zhou Xiang are all orig\u00adi\u00adnal pic\u00adture book cre\u00adators who have emerged since the 1980s. I want to start inter\u00adview\u00ading them, as well as some rel\u00ada\u00adtive\u00adly young authors.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>It also includes text writ\u00aders, such as Mr. Zhu Zhiqiang and Mr. Peng Yi. \u200b\u200b<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"1024\" height=\"588\" src=\"https:\/\/ajia.site\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/05\/\u539f\u521b\u56fe\u753b\u4e66\u9605\u8bfb\u4e0e\u7cbe\u54c1\u7b80\u4ecb02-1024x588.jpg\" alt class=\"wp-image-164\" srcset=\"https:\/\/ajia.site\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/05\/\u539f\u521b\u56fe\u753b\u4e66\u9605\u8bfb\u4e0e\u7cbe\u54c1\u7b80\u4ecb02-1024x588.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/ajia.site\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/05\/\u539f\u521b\u56fe\u753b\u4e66\u9605\u8bfb\u4e0e\u7cbe\u54c1\u7b80\u4ecb02-300x172.jpg 300w, https:\/\/ajia.site\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/05\/\u539f\u521b\u56fe\u753b\u4e66\u9605\u8bfb\u4e0e\u7cbe\u54c1\u7b80\u4ecb02-768x441.jpg 768w, https:\/\/ajia.site\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/05\/\u539f\u521b\u56fe\u753b\u4e66\u9605\u8bfb\u4e0e\u7cbe\u54c1\u7b80\u4ecb02-1536x881.jpg 1536w, https:\/\/ajia.site\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/05\/\u539f\u521b\u56fe\u753b\u4e66\u9605\u8bfb\u4e0e\u7cbe\u54c1\u7b80\u4ecb02-2048x1175.jpg 2048w, https:\/\/ajia.site\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/05\/\u539f\u521b\u56fe\u753b\u4e66\u9605\u8bfb\u4e0e\u7cbe\u54c1\u7b80\u4ecb02-18x10.jpg 18w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1024px) 100vw, 1024px\"><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p>Mr. Peng Yi was actu\u00adal\u00adly the first per\u00adson I asked to inter\u00adview, because he was one of the authors of \u201cWorld Pic\u00adture Book Read\u00ading and Clas\u00adsics\u201d, which was com\u00adplet\u00aded in 2005 or 2006. I also par\u00adtic\u00adi\u00adpat\u00aded in some of the process\u00ades, help\u00ading him look up award infor\u00adma\u00adtion, read\u00ading the first draft, and even help\u00ading him find a pub\u00adlish\u00ader in the end, so I also con\u00adtributed a lot.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>In fact, my idea at the time was to start with the basic infor\u00adma\u00adtion, and under\u00adstand the his\u00adto\u00adry behind these books one by one and what their growth expe\u00adri\u00adences were like.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Lat\u00ader I real\u00adized that this was a huge project. I start\u00aded work\u00ading on it in 2015 and gave up in 2019.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>One impor\u00adtant rea\u00adson is that I found that Wang Xint\u00ading of Iread Chil\u00addren\u2019s Books is very good at inter\u00adview\u00ading, and she pro\u00adduces man\u00adu\u00adscripts very quick\u00adly and orga\u00adnizes them very well. With such peo\u00adple doing this, I felt that I did\u00adn\u2019t need to do this any\u00admore. I also told Xint\u00ading to do more. After her first book was pub\u00adlished, I was also very hap\u00adpy to write the pref\u00adace for her sec\u00adond inter\u00adview col\u00adlec\u00adtion.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>So I can be lazy in this regard. After all, this is not my strong point.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>I might be more suit\u00aded to doing some his\u00adtor\u00adi\u00adcal sort\u00ading, such as a detailed sort\u00ading out of each book, or appre\u00adci\u00adat\u00ading it, or arrang\u00ading these works in chrono\u00adlog\u00adi\u00adcal order, and then think\u00ading about why they are what they are today in light of the back\u00adground.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>In that his\u00adtor\u00adi\u00adcal con\u00adtext, what val\u00adue and sta\u00adtus do they have? If we can go one step fur\u00adther, per\u00adhaps we can do some\u00adthing more.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Xiaox\u00adi\u00adang:<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>I think both aspects of work are very impor\u00adtant \u2014 on the one hand, inter\u00adviews with writ\u00aders, and on the oth\u00ader hand, what you are doing, comb\u00ading through and sum\u00adma\u00adriz\u00ading the entire con\u00adtext. Appre\u00adci\u00ada\u00adtion is also very impor\u00adtant.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>For me, read\u00ading your book gives me a very inter\u00adest\u00ading com\u00adpar\u00ada\u00adtive read\u00ading per\u00adspec\u00adtive.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Because at the Shang\u00adhai Chil\u00addren\u2019s Book Fair that just end\u00aded, I was for\u00adtu\u00adnate to inter\u00adview Japan\u00adese pic\u00adture book researcher and book review\u00ader Yukiko Hiro\u00admat\u00adsu. She also pub\u00adlished a very impor\u00adtant research book last year about the devel\u00adop\u00adment of Japan\u00adese pic\u00adture books over the past cen\u00adtu\u00adry, called \u201cJapan\u00adese Pic\u00adture Books for 100 Years, 100 Books, 100 Peo\u00adple\u201d (\u300e\u65e5\u672c\u306e\u7d75\u672c100\u5e74100\u4eba100\u518a\u300f). \u200b\u200b<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-full\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"640\" height=\"427\" src=\"https:\/\/ajia.site\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/05\/100\u5e74100\u4eba100\u518c.jpg\" alt class=\"wp-image-165\" srcset=\"https:\/\/ajia.site\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/05\/100\u5e74100\u4eba100\u518c.jpg 640w, https:\/\/ajia.site\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/05\/100\u5e74100\u4eba100\u518c-300x200.jpg 300w, https:\/\/ajia.site\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/05\/100\u5e74100\u4eba100\u518c-18x12.jpg 18w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 640px) 100vw, 640px\"><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p>I think that book has a lot of sim\u00adi\u00adlar\u00adi\u00adties with yours in terms of for\u00admat, ideas, and even style. Of course, there are also many dif\u00adfer\u00adences.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>So today I would also like to ask you some of the ques\u00adtions I asked her at that time, and I would also like to hear your thoughts.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>I remem\u00adber ask\u00ading her: What is her posi\u00adtion\u00ading for her book? Who does she think are the poten\u00adtial read\u00aders? Or, who does she hope will read this book? I think I can also ask you this ques\u00adtion. What do you think?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Ajia:<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>This is a good ques\u00adtion.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>In fact, I have want\u00aded to study the his\u00adto\u00adry of Japan\u00adese pic\u00adture books for a while, so I also tried to look up some infor\u00adma\u00adtion. Japan has a rel\u00ada\u00adtive\u00adly mature tra\u00addi\u00adtion in the field of aca\u00add\u00ade\u00adm\u00adic research, and the basic data is very sol\u00adid.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>The his\u00adto\u00adry of con\u00adtem\u00adpo\u00adrary Japan\u00adese pic\u00adture books can be rough\u00adly said to have start\u00aded in the 1950s. Of course, there was a long tran\u00adsi\u00adtion peri\u00adod before that. But strict\u00adly speak\u00ading, the his\u00adto\u00adry of con\u00adtem\u00adpo\u00adrary pic\u00adture books should have start\u00aded after the war, that is, around 1950. They have done very sol\u00adid basic research.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>As far as I can see, Japan\u00adese pic\u00adture books have entered a new stage, a very diver\u00adsi\u00adfied stage. There are many dif\u00adfer\u00adent eval\u00adu\u00ada\u00adtion sys\u00adtems, dif\u00adfer\u00adent read\u00ading groups, and dif\u00adfer\u00adent \u201centhu\u00adsi\u00adast\u201d groups. So in Japan, a rel\u00ada\u00adtive\u00adly small group of peo\u00adple may like a cer\u00adtain type of pic\u00adture book, while anoth\u00ader group likes anoth\u00ader type. They have a wide vari\u00adety of pic\u00adture book types, and there are also many sub-cat\u00ade\u00adgories.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Such a state, from the per\u00adspec\u00adtive of devel\u00adop\u00adment, is already very mature and will present dif\u00adfer\u00adent aspects. Its rich\u00adness is worth know\u00ading. Because you may belong to this niche group, but you also need to know what kind of books oth\u00ader groups like.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>So I think that in addi\u00adtion to aca\u00add\u00ade\u00adm\u00adic research, there should also be some books that can build bridges in the pub\u00adlic domain, so that every\u00adone can under\u00adstand which books are valu\u00adable. Such books are a kind of \u201cbridge-type\u201d books.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>For exam\u00adple, when I write some\u00adthing on orig\u00adi\u00adnal pic\u00adture books, I actu\u00adal\u00adly hope that my read\u00aders can com\u00adpare them with for\u00adeign pic\u00adture books while read\u00ading my orig\u00adi\u00adnal works, and see their respec\u00adtive advan\u00adtages. So I often make com\u00adpar\u00adisons. For exam\u00adple, I com\u00adpare them with some clas\u00adsic works, or com\u00adpare them with a for\u00adeign pic\u00adture book. Some\u00adtimes they are pub\u00adlished at a very close time.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>For exam\u00adple, the same year that Some\u00adthing From Noth\u00ading by Phoebe Gilman was pub\u00adlished, the Tai\u00adwanese ver\u00adsion of The Mouse Mar\u00adries a Bride was also pub\u00adlished. Coin\u00adci\u00adden\u00adtal\u00adly, they both adopt\u00aded a sim\u00adi\u00adlar struc\u00adture: one is the human world, the oth\u00ader is the mouse world.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>For exam\u00adple, \u201cSome\u00adthing From Noth\u00ading\u201d tells the sto\u00adry of a man in the human world who always has a way to turn old clothes into some\u00adthing else, and final\u00adly makes them into but\u00adtons, always solv\u00ading prob\u00adlems. And under\u00adneath the sto\u00adry, there is a world of mice who use the scraps of cloth that humans don\u2019t want to build their own lives. This is \u201cSome\u00adthing From Noth\u00ading\u201d. \u200b<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"1024\" height=\"685\" src=\"https:\/\/ajia.site\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/05\/\u539f\u521b\u56fe\u753b\u4e66\u9605\u8bfb\u4e0e\u7cbe\u54c1\u5185\u9875\u4e4b\u8001\u9f20\u5a36\u65b0\u5a18-1024x685.jpg\" alt class=\"wp-image-166\" srcset=\"https:\/\/ajia.site\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/05\/\u539f\u521b\u56fe\u753b\u4e66\u9605\u8bfb\u4e0e\u7cbe\u54c1\u5185\u9875\u4e4b\u8001\u9f20\u5a36\u65b0\u5a18-1024x685.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/ajia.site\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/05\/\u539f\u521b\u56fe\u753b\u4e66\u9605\u8bfb\u4e0e\u7cbe\u54c1\u5185\u9875\u4e4b\u8001\u9f20\u5a36\u65b0\u5a18-300x201.jpg 300w, https:\/\/ajia.site\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/05\/\u539f\u521b\u56fe\u753b\u4e66\u9605\u8bfb\u4e0e\u7cbe\u54c1\u5185\u9875\u4e4b\u8001\u9f20\u5a36\u65b0\u5a18-768x514.jpg 768w, https:\/\/ajia.site\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/05\/\u539f\u521b\u56fe\u753b\u4e66\u9605\u8bfb\u4e0e\u7cbe\u54c1\u5185\u9875\u4e4b\u8001\u9f20\u5a36\u65b0\u5a18-1536x1028.jpg 1536w, https:\/\/ajia.site\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/05\/\u539f\u521b\u56fe\u753b\u4e66\u9605\u8bfb\u4e0e\u7cbe\u54c1\u5185\u9875\u4e4b\u8001\u9f20\u5a36\u65b0\u5a18-2048x1371.jpg 2048w, https:\/\/ajia.site\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/05\/\u539f\u521b\u56fe\u753b\u4e66\u9605\u8bfb\u4e0e\u7cbe\u54c1\u5185\u9875\u4e4b\u8001\u9f20\u5a36\u65b0\u5a18-18x12.jpg 18w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1024px) 100vw, 1024px\"><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p>The same is true for \u201cThe Mouse Mar\u00adries a Bride\u201d, there are human vil\u00adlages and mouse vil\u00adlages. It main\u00adly tells the sto\u00adry of mice, but we can also see the var\u00adi\u00adous appear\u00adances of human vil\u00adlages.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>These two books were indeed pub\u00adlished in the same year. I lat\u00ader dis\u00adcov\u00adered that some\u00adtimes such cre\u00adativ\u00adi\u00adty may come from some ear\u00adli\u00ader inspi\u00adra\u00adtion. Each of them has its own won\u00adder\u00adful aspects.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>To some extent, I think the mouse world in \u201cThe Mouse Mar\u00adries the Bride\u201d is bet\u00adter than the human world. This is def\u00adi\u00adnite\u00adly not pla\u00adgia\u00adrism, and it is very like\u00adly that its cre\u00adativ\u00adi\u00adty is even bet\u00adter. Of course, this is my per\u00adson\u00adal eval\u00adu\u00ada\u00adtion.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Xiaox\u00adi\u00adang:<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>I have seen sim\u00adi\u00adlar sit\u00adu\u00ada\u00adtions men\u00adtioned in many places in your book, such as works pub\u00adlished in the same year with sim\u00adi\u00adlar themes. For exam\u00adple, \u201cRhi\u00adnoc\u00ader\u00ados Horns of Sudan\u201d by Dai Yun and Li Xing\u00adming and \u201cMr. Gumpy\u2019s Rhi\u00adno\u201d by Burn\u00ading\u00adham, I think you men\u00adtioned that they were both pub\u00adlished in 2019? They both tell the sto\u00adry of the north\u00adern white rhi\u00adno in East Africa.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>But you can see that their cre\u00adative choic\u00ades are com\u00adplete\u00adly dif\u00adfer\u00adent. Maybe from the per\u00adspec\u00adtive of sen\u00adti\u00adment, \u201cThe Horn of Sudan\u201d is more grand, right?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"1024\" height=\"691\" src=\"https:\/\/ajia.site\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/05\/\u539f\u521b\u56fe\u753b\u4e66\u9605\u8bfb\u4e0e\u7cbe\u54c1\u5185\u9875\u4e4b\u82cf\u4e39\u7684\u7280\u89d2-1024x691.jpg\" alt class=\"wp-image-167\" srcset=\"https:\/\/ajia.site\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/05\/\u539f\u521b\u56fe\u753b\u4e66\u9605\u8bfb\u4e0e\u7cbe\u54c1\u5185\u9875\u4e4b\u82cf\u4e39\u7684\u7280\u89d2-1024x691.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/ajia.site\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/05\/\u539f\u521b\u56fe\u753b\u4e66\u9605\u8bfb\u4e0e\u7cbe\u54c1\u5185\u9875\u4e4b\u82cf\u4e39\u7684\u7280\u89d2-300x202.jpg 300w, https:\/\/ajia.site\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/05\/\u539f\u521b\u56fe\u753b\u4e66\u9605\u8bfb\u4e0e\u7cbe\u54c1\u5185\u9875\u4e4b\u82cf\u4e39\u7684\u7280\u89d2-768x518.jpg 768w, https:\/\/ajia.site\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/05\/\u539f\u521b\u56fe\u753b\u4e66\u9605\u8bfb\u4e0e\u7cbe\u54c1\u5185\u9875\u4e4b\u82cf\u4e39\u7684\u7280\u89d2-1536x1036.jpg 1536w, https:\/\/ajia.site\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/05\/\u539f\u521b\u56fe\u753b\u4e66\u9605\u8bfb\u4e0e\u7cbe\u54c1\u5185\u9875\u4e4b\u82cf\u4e39\u7684\u7280\u89d2-2048x1382.jpg 2048w, https:\/\/ajia.site\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/05\/\u539f\u521b\u56fe\u753b\u4e66\u9605\u8bfb\u4e0e\u7cbe\u54c1\u5185\u9875\u4e4b\u82cf\u4e39\u7684\u7280\u89d2-18x12.jpg 18w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1024px) 100vw, 1024px\"><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p>\u200b\u200b<strong>Ajia:<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>It\u2019s hard to say. So I think this kind of com\u00adpar\u00adi\u00adson is just build\u00ading a bridge so that each side can see each oth\u00ader.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>I don\u2019t real\u00adly want to lim\u00adit my read\u00aders to the pure\u00adly aca\u00add\u00ade\u00adm\u00adic or pro\u00adfes\u00adsion\u00adal cir\u00adcles. I hope that more adults, both adults and chil\u00addren, can see the inter\u00adest\u00ading side of these books.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>I try not to use the tone that is writ\u00adten for aca\u00add\u00ade\u00adm\u00adic or pro\u00adfes\u00adsion\u00adal read\u00aders. In fact, I quite like to write with the inter\u00adest of a \u201csto\u00adry\u00adteller\u201d.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Xiaox\u00adi\u00adang:<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>This is your unique style.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Your answer is actu\u00adal\u00adly quite sim\u00adi\u00adlar to Hiro\u00admat\u00adsu\u2019s. She said that she also want\u00aded to write a more pro\u00adfes\u00adsion\u00adal or even aca\u00add\u00ade\u00adm\u00adic book at first. But then she recalled that when she was a stu\u00addent in the 1980s, she read a book called \u201cThe World of Pic\u00adture Books\u201d (some say \u201cThe World of Illus\u00adtra\u00adtions\u201d) writ\u00adten by Hori\u00aduchi Sei\u00adichi \uff08\u307b\u308a\u3046\u3061 \u305b\u3044\u3044\u3061\uff09in a book\u00adstore. She thought the book was very inter\u00adest\u00ading. It had a cer\u00adtain depth, but it was also very inter\u00adest\u00ading. It was that book that opened the door to pic\u00adture books for her at that time.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>So she felt that when she wrote this book today, she hoped it would be for a larg\u00ader group, for the future, and for the next gen\u00ader\u00ada\u00adtion. She said she did\u00adn\u2019t care about pro\u00adfes\u00adsion\u00adal\u00adism at all. I think this is real\u00adly close to your idea.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>The sec\u00adond ques\u00adtion I asked her was this: In her book, she actu\u00adal\u00adly sum\u00adma\u00adrized the entire 100-year his\u00adto\u00adry of mod\u00adern pic\u00adture books in Japan from 1912 to 2014 into a clear for\u00admat of \u201c100 years, 100 cre\u00adators or 100 groups of cre\u00adators, and 100 rep\u00adre\u00adsen\u00adta\u00adtive works.\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Among these 100 rep\u00adre\u00adsen\u00adta\u00adtive works, I actu\u00adal\u00adly noticed that some of them were not the \u201crep\u00adre\u00adsen\u00adta\u00adtive works\u201d of those \u201crep\u00adre\u00adsen\u00adta\u00adtive writ\u00aders\u201d in Japan that Chi\u00adnese read\u00aders would first think of. For exam\u00adple, when men\u00adtion\u00ading Mit\u00adsumasa Anno, she did not choose the most famous \u201cAnno\u2019s jour\u00adney\u201d, but anoth\u00ader book \u201cDon\u2019t Open\u201d. For exam\u00adple, Yoko Sano did not men\u00adtion \u201cThe Cat That Lived a Mil\u00adlion Times\u201d, but \u201cThe Child Born\u201d.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>So regard\u00ading the issue of book selec\u00adtion, I also asked her: How do you bal\u00adance pro\u00adfes\u00adsion\u00adal\u00adism and per\u00adson\u00adal pref\u00ader\u00adences, or per\u00adson\u00adal read\u00ading inter\u00adests?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>I would also like to ask you this ques\u00adtion, because you also men\u00adtioned \u201c62 rep\u00adre\u00adsen\u00adta\u00adtive works in 65 years\u201d in your book. 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To be hon\u00adest, the pre\u00adde\u00adces\u00adsors of Yukiko Hiro\u00admat\u00adsu, whom you men\u00adtioned, have already done a lot of basic work. And from the per\u00adspec\u00adtive of their entire pic\u00adture book cul\u00adture, many peo\u00adple have been sort\u00ading it out, includ\u00ading var\u00adi\u00adous types of book lists.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>The Nation\u00adal Diet Library of Japan has also com\u00adpiled a bib\u00adli\u00adog\u00adra\u00adphy of rep\u00adre\u00adsen\u00adta\u00adtive pic\u00adture books. I have down\u00adloaded their mate\u00adri\u00adals, which are real\u00adly pro\u00adfes\u00adsion\u00adal and rep\u00adre\u00adsent rec\u00adog\u00adnized \u201cgood books\u201d. It is also impor\u00adtant to con\u00adsid\u00ader the time point. Because when you first start to sort out, you need to estab\u00adlish the con\u00adcept of \u201cmile\u00adstones\u201d. The so-called \u201cmile\u00adstone\u201d means that for a cer\u00adtain author, the most impor\u00adtant and most praised book, we should not bypass it.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>This is the most basic part and can\u00adnot be ignored when you first start doing this work.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>But once you have this foun\u00adda\u00adtion, you can expand upon it, such as adding some per\u00adson\u00adal inter\u00adests.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Back to the book \u201cOrig\u00adi\u00adnal Pic\u00adture Books: Select\u00aded Read\u00adings and High\u00adlights\u201d, in fact, its cre\u00adation was some\u00adwhat acci\u00adden\u00adtal. 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